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AbuHannaH on August 29th, 2008 at 7:04 am #
jzk sheilk an excellent answer……….
abunafees on August 29th, 2008 at 7:58 am #
JazakAllahKhair, it is really an eye opener.
Kashif Amin on August 29th, 2008 at 8:30 am #
AllahuAkbar! I longed for the Imam to give us his opinion on this vital issue for the Ummah, and he has done so in his customary clear and concise manor. JazakAllah khair.
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Talha on August 29th, 2008 at 9:49 am #
This is Al awlaki! u don’t just expect him 2 please u at the cost of this religon! love him or hate him but WALAHI u can’t ignore him! i luvvvvvvv his 2 death!
Talha Sumali
Dear and respected sheikh, BarakAllaahu feek for providing this clear answer and may Allah preserve you.
Abu Alee on August 29th, 2008 at 11:52 am #
Jazak’Allahu khairen Sheikh.
barakaAllah feek wa ahsanAllahu ‘ilayka
Jazak Allah Khair Shaikh Anwar from your brothers @ RevolutionMuslim.Com
Abu Hafsa on August 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm #
Assalamualikum
Imam Anwar… some Muslims who follow the HT method have said this:
“Its not what method works more effective, rather its following the way of RasoolAllah(saw). HT do not follow the method they do due to the perceivable results it may bring but rather because it is ibadah and they are required to follow this course or else risk the anger of Allah(swt). So to use the examples of the taliban or the islamic courts does not deserve attention as these are not sources of usool and this is an usooli/fiqhi issue.”
So some think that this is the way of RasoolAllah and its a commandment and not following it is “risking Allah’s anger”
Just quickly.. how would you respond to this…?
JazakAllah khair
abu on August 29th, 2008 at 12:50 pm #
HT brothers no were they stand now
Ibn Na'eem on August 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm #
AllahuAkbar! This post right here has truly answered a lot of questions I’ve had on the topic. My heart is at peace now!
JazakAllahkhair sheikh! May Allah preserve you and your efforts.
Umar on August 29th, 2008 at 2:05 pm #
Salam. Before people just blindly follow what the sheikh has stated, find out the daleels related to this issue. Not to mention that his understanding of HT’s method is questionable.
Faisal on August 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm #
Asalaam alaikum wa rahmatulah wa barakatahu
Inshallah who ever is reading this is in the best of health and the strongest of iman by the grace of Allah swt
Jazakallah khair Sheikh for an excellent understanding and a very descriptive blog about this vital issue.
I mean totally no offence at all and respect you dearly but I would have to agree with brother Abu Hafsa, because you say were you see people gaining the upper hand are correct, I would disagree, because they said that about saudi once, its going up and up islamicly but even though they changed bits to make Muslims happy they did not change as a whole, unfortunately we Muslims do not compromise on half an half, it is all or nothing. Like the Islamic courts in Somalia, yes they stood for an Islamic cause but with them came un-Islamic practises because they were the only Islamic thing, all the rest of the structure of the system was non Islamic.
Or like in the UK were there are Muslims who are mpâs and are bending over backwards to please the non-Muslims but also keep the Muslims at bay and happy. This can also be seen as Muslims progressing but still thereâs the matter of compromise.
And yes I totally agree with you on the fighting, whoever can fight should to repel the aggressors of this war, because yes it is fard ayn on the people who can fight.
Through out the decades Muslims have been fighting and will always fight against injustice but fighting with small battalions or groups or individually will not lead to complete change (as I see in my opinion which may be wrong).
Yes I know you mentioned that support did come when fighting occurred in Iraq but the bottom line is thatâs all it was, they made a good repellent but that was it. Sorry Iâm only mentioning that because you seem to be saying about where youâve seen results or progression.
And if we are to judge by results subhanAllah these HT brothers support has grown phenomenally. Where ever I go they are there, and they held one of the largest conferences back in 2007 (100, 000 people jam packed in a stadium that can hold only 100, 000 people), I was amazed when I found out about that.
Sheikh I know you had bad experience with some people or groups who are argumentative and etc, I think we should look past how people act and see what they have to say.
Anyway Sheikh please donât take offence Iâm only saying my opinion. You are still my favourite sheikh, one which I long to meet in this life or if ever me and you make it to Jannah inshallah because Alhumdulilah thanks be to Allah He swt has given you the ability to change and make people understand and alhumdulilah you have used that opportunity to the best of your ability.
Anyway Khair I do not know the unseen and do not know the answers so I ask Allah to guide me and guide us all and reward you and everyone who makes an effort for the sake of Allah.
P.s. Abu âHT brothers no were they stand nowâ
were not here to degrade or create divisions or hatred towards any people or organisations but to help and aid people.
Asalaam alaikum wa rahmatulah wa barakatahu
Abu Hafsa on August 29th, 2008 at 3:13 pm #
Akhi Faisal.. i do not agree with HT’s method… i hold the belief that we can not establish Khilafah without Jihad fee sabilillah
Faisal,
Assalam Alaikum.
Here are a few points to consider in Sha’ Allah:
1. Jihaad is fard ‘ayn; which means, end of story. If we have a large percentage of the Ummah actually practicing it, then the victory will come quicker, inshaa’Allaah.
2. The Mujaahideen are winning today in many lands. Imaam Anwar briefly mentioned that the Kuffaar are the ones bleeding today as opposed to the Mujaahideen and he is speaking from the perspective of the military reports and the widely-available knowledge regarding the status of the wars.
3. Understanding Jihaad goes back to understanding its constants; and if one abandons the constants of Jihaad - such as saying, “We cannot win… Allah cannot help us defeat this Empire” - then this is Nifaaq. Refer to Imaam Anwar’s “Constants on the Path of Jihaad” which you can download at halaltube.net
4. You seem to be speaking from a historical perspective of Jihaad in the contemporary history rather than the current events. It seems you are focusing more on the Afghan-Soviet, Bosnian-Serb era.
Times have changed my brother; the Mujaahideen have already admitted their mistakes in those wars of the past (i.e., such as letting the politicians take over after the war) and their ranks are purified and are constantly purifying. So the issue here is: do you really know what’s going on today in the Jihaad or are you simply treating the Jihaad of today like it will have the results of the Jihaad of yesterday?
5. Numbers are not what grants victory; if Allah wills, He can grant victory to a group of 12,000 (as in the hadeeth). HT and many of these other groups that don’t fight have many members; but where have they established at least one acre of Shari’ah upon Allah’s earth? Look at the Mujaahideen in Afghanistan for instance: they have established Shari’ah in nearly 50% of Afghanistan, even though the ruthless American Empire and her allies are fighting them there (yet, Allah is not allowing these Kuffaar to penetrate). So this is a form of victory which none of these other groups have achieved in their long, long, long history.
6. One of the points Imaam Anwar was trying to make was that those who do not follow the religion correctly, it cannot be expected of them to establish an entire Khilaafah whilst they are disobeying Allah (such as in Jihaad, practice of the Sunnah etc.).
It was said that once an Army was losing ground on the battlefield, so they sent a note to the Khaleefah about this matter. The Khaleefah wrote back to them stating: ‘Make sure the fighters are practicing Islaam in its fullest.’ And so they checked the fighters and their practice of the Deen, and they noticed that it was excellent except for the fact that hardly any of them were practicing the Sunnah of Miswak. So once they started practicing that as a whole, Allah granted them victories.
So it is important for any movement that wants to help Allah’s religion that they stay as close as possible to the Sunnah and that they do not violate or neglect the Islaamic duties. And this is what the Mujaahidoon of today strive to do.
maleeha on August 29th, 2008 at 6:03 pm #
JazakAllah Khair brother Anwar for your insightful answer,and brother Faisal I share your perspective too. I feel relieved that a growing number of muslims actually believe that the establishment of the Khilafah is a vital and long overdue issue, so we certainly should not be trying to score points off one another! I agree that Jihad is fard ayn, and wish myself and my kids to be at its forefront inshAllah, however, is it not linked to capability, of the individual and the ummah?, and until that capability exists, demonstrating, leafleting and commanding the good and forbiding the munkar at an ideological level at least prepares the ummah to support the Khilafah once its established, when the onslaught, propaganda and sanctions will be threatened by the kuffar. The sincerity of the mujahiddeen is exemplary for us, I think we need to harness such capability onto a state that has a clear idea of ruling, economy and society, so that we have complete implementation of shariah asap. Such excellence already exists among us in the areas of political analysis, military strategy and prowess and clarity of the need of implementing the sharaa in totality amongst the ummah right now. Frankly the mujahiddeen, HT, the sincere uleema, learned sheiks and the sincere muslims who yearn to fullfill their promise to Allah swt must not pick faults with one another and rejoice when anothers method is questioned, but should support one another wholeheartedly. This is a time in which the reward of the victory could be ours inshAllah. Work together as brothers, brothers!
Abdul Majid on August 29th, 2008 at 7:20 pm #
Salaam Sheikh and jazakAllah khair for your thoughts on this topic… I’ve actually wanted to know what you thought since I listened to your seerah CDs.
Just one thing I’d like to clarify. You said: “So even if you do not believe Jihad to be the way to establish Khilafah you must agree that Jihad is fardh ayn and that is not where HT stands.”
Every member of HT I’ve discussed with always maintain that defensive Jihad is definitely fardh ayn. The only difference I’ve seen is that they say it is only fardh ayn on those who are capable of achieving the objective of removing the occupation (i.e. the Muslim armies). Civilians who are not capable should account and motivate the armies to act. If a Muslim is directly occupied himself, then he should fight whether he is capable or not. E.g. members of HT were directly involved in the fighting in Iraq (not in their capacity as HT but as Muslims under occupation).
Just wanted to clarify this. Everything else is crystal clear. JazakAllah khair.
Abdul Majid on August 29th, 2008 at 7:30 pm #
Just to add to my previous comment. The following is a section taken from the book: Jihad and the Foreign Policy of the Islamic State, written by a member of HT and published by Khilafah Publications. Please read my previous comment first. JazakAllah khair.
âJihad originally is fardh kifayah (a collective obligation upon the Islamic
Ummah whereupon if some of them fulfilled the obligation then the
obligation is lifted) but when the enemy attacks, it becomes fardh ayni (an individual obligation) upon all the Muslims who have the capability.
The meaning that Jihad is fardh kifayah originally is that the Muslims
begin and initiate fighting the enemy even if the enemy did not attack the
Muslims. If no one from the Muslims begins or initiates the fighting in
any period of time, all the Muslims then would have committed a sin by
leaving Jihad. Therefore, Jihad in origin is not a defensive war. It is in fact a war to raise high the Word of Allah (swt) and it is obligatory for the Islamic Ummah to be engaged in it.
Jihad was continued by the Khulafa’a after the death of the Messenger
of Allah (saw), as a method of spreading Islam and by Jihad many lands were conquered. By Jihad, kingdoms and states were uprooted and Islam ruled and governed those very same people. Islam was spread and was
embraced by hundreds of millions of peoples after they had been ruled
by it. The method used in achieving the Islamic State’s foreign policy
objectives was Jihad waged by the Khilafah. It has never changed and it
never will, because it is based upon the Sharâiah rules that Allah (swt) had revealed and is not subject to change.â
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Polytyk on August 29th, 2008 at 7:49 pm #
JazakAllah Shaykh, this is exactly what we (as an Ummah) needed right about now.
joshim on August 29th, 2008 at 8:14 pm #
assalamu alaikum imam awlaki
i pray Allah keeps you in the the best of health and iman. and HE swt rewards you for remaining steadfast and on the truth in todays climate of fear and oppression. very few have been able to leave prison and still have their iman intact. indeed, you are amonsgt those pious muslims.
i would like to comment on the imam’s analysis of HT and their methodology to bring about change. with all due respect, i disagree with the views expressed by the sheikh on the feasability of establishing the khilafah according to the HT method.
just in the last century, we have seen many revolutions that have taken place thruout the world. almost all of them can be attributed to the building of public opinion and awareness amongst the masses by the groups campaigning for change. by the sheikhs own acknowledgment, HT have done well in spreading the message of khilafah both in the muslim world and the western world. the brothers in HT have also shed blood in carrying this message (and this is well documented) and yet they have not deviated from their methodology in anyway e.g. resorting to violence. this is solely because of their adherence to the methodology of the prophet saw in establishing the state. and as a result of this millions have joined this call around the world (maybe not by affiliation, but certainly by supporting it).
i firmly belive that we need man power and not military might to establish the state. the day we can gather 100,000s of people to march into the presidential palaces in the muslim world, that will be the day when we can establsih the state (with the help of some of the influenctial people as well). i genuinly believe the tablighis can do this if they had the same zeal like the brothers in HT for the khilafah. all they need to do is for the ameer of tablighi jamat in nizamuddin (india) to instruct all their followers to march into the palaces of pakistan and remove the despotic rulers and then establish the state. however, they will then have to hand the power to those who know how to run the state both internally and externally i.e. HT.
unfortunately, they dont see that as part of their dawah (if only they did).
the muslim armies are waiting to see the masses on the street with this call, so that they can also be given the confidence to be able to translate that emotion into the other leading members of the armed force. the support of the influential people in the muslim world e.g. ulema, other groups, polititians etc. is also crucial in this effort.
this, i believe is what is going to bring about change. and we have recent example of this. the orange revolution that took place in ukrain is one of many example how the masses were used to build the momentum, and then eventually topple the govt.
i believe this method is far more practical and realistic than the method of jihad to remove the rulers. the jihadis are not one jamat who are co-ordinating their offensive in trying to establish the state. most of them are involved in defensive jihad anyway, busy trying to repel the occupiers. there are many questions left unanswered with their approach e.g. how are they going to bring about a change in the system by assasinating the rulers, how much work have they done researching the diffenet aspects of islam for eventual implementation of islam etc.
anyways, this is how i understand the present staus quo without going into the methodology prescribed by the shariah. there maybe legitimate diferences.
allah knows best
wslsm
joshim, whitechaple, london
Abdul-Kareem on August 29th, 2008 at 8:17 pm #
Assalamu alaikum sheikh,
I am a little concerned with some of your arguments put forward in this article.
You wrote: “However the method of HT to re-establish khilfah is simply not going to work. To wait for nusrah until it arrives is to wait for a miracle. Tribes or military generals that are supposed to give nusrah and establish the religion of Allah are not going to be won over simply by discussions.”
HT has derived the seeking of nusra from the seerah of rasoolAllah (saw). This is a sharia daleel. For you to say “is simply not going to work” means you have overridden a sharia daleel from reality which is not allowed. If you dispute the Islamic daleel of seeking nusra then counter it with an equal or stronger Islamic evidence.
Also this method to establish the Khilafah by preparing the society and finally seeking the nusra worked for the Prophet (saw) so it will work for our ummah inshAllah.
In todays reality many of our leaders came to power through military coup. Only recently there was a coup in Mauritania. Why is it beyond the realms of possibility for a coup to happen by a general doing it for the sake of Islam rather than the sake of the foreign powers or his own personal interests? Islam can change any individual.
You wrote: “To wait for nusrah until it arrives is to wait for a miracle.”
Again I am surprised by this statement. Firstly, HT SEEKS nusra, it doesnt simply wait for it to happen. This is what rasoolAllah (saw) did when he approached the different tribes. Secondly, surely it is part of our iman to believe nasr min Allah, that the victory ultimately comes from Allah (swt) no matter how much effort we undertake.
You wrote: “Tribes or military generals that are supposed to give nusrah and establish the religion of Allah are not going to be won over simply by discussions.”
RasoolAllah (saw) won over the aws and khazraj who became the ansar (nusra) “simply by discussions.”
In fact HT has attempted a few coups in the Muslim world and has won over army officers “simply by discussions.”
As a nasheeha I suggest reading Sheikh Ahmed Mahmoud’s book on “Dawa to Islam” which explains in detail the sharia evidences concerning all aspects of the method to establish the Khilafah.
url: http://www.universal-islam.com/phpfiletrace.php?file=DawaToIslam.pdf
Kashif Amin on August 29th, 2008 at 9:13 pm #
AsalaamuAlaykum,
Just a word of caution to those commenting here. It is important to remember that the Imam is entitled to his opinion and those who know him will know that it is an informed opinion. At the same time we should not be attacking our brothers at HT. They perform a vital task in nurturing the correct ideological thinking in Muslims across the globe and are ultimately striving for the same vital cause: the re-establishing of Khilafah. Let us work together to help those who do this work and make dua that the Khilafah is established soon (regardless of whether HT do it or the Mujahideen).
Abu on August 29th, 2008 at 11:45 pm #
Heres is a detailed article refuting the method of HT:
http://talk.islamicnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=12688&postcount=4
Hizb Tahrir in their newspaper al-khilaafah No. 18, Friday, 2nd of January 1410H there is an article called :Hizbut-Tahree wal-Imaam Khomeini’ and in this edition they proudly admit that they went to Iran and invited Khomeini to be the khalifah of the ummah…..he rejected their call.
The leader of Hizb Tahrir in Lebanon is a Rafidee as many of their members, and they have frequent contacts with Hizb Shaytan leader nasrullah, see article
http://www.moqawama.org/_amistekbal.php?filename=2006070810245812
The hizb have an aqeedah that is a mixture of maatureedee/ash’aree and in some aspects such as the attributes of Allah displaying the aqeedah of Mu’tazila, which is a group outside the fold of Ahl Sunnah wal Jam’ah.
Abdur Rahman al Dimashqiyya wrote something interesting about them:
http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/misguided/Hizbut-Tahrir.htm
HT also exclude any type of Jihad even if enemy attacks without the Islamic State… their justification of not fighting the rulers amounts to a pseuodo-recognition.
Even if you look to the way their argue their points….
King Abdullah, Bashr Asad, Gen. Musharraf and Hosni Mubarak would have more of a sense of a legitimacy in comparison to… Mullah Umar, Dokka Umarov and Abu Umar al-Baghdadi.
They always try and imply that the leaders of the jihad are agents of America.
http://www.hizbuttahrir.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=863
http://www.hizbuttahrir.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1050
http://www.hizbuttahrir.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1040
http://www.hizbuttahrir.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=617
Uthman on August 30th, 2008 at 12:08 am #
Akhi Kashif makes a vital point. We all work for same objective. That is more important. Let us discuss the methodological difference in good faith and with Islamic etqiuitte.
I would like to offer the following points in response to Imam Anwar’s critique of our (HT) methodology. May Allah reward him with much good and bless him in his da’wah.
1. Nusrah not won by discussions.
This critique is based on an aqli daleel (one which is quite open to argument) whereas the matter under discussion (method of re-establishing khilafah) is a ijtihadi issue based on naqli evidence.
Indeed, the Prophet’s nusrah was won by discussion (i.e. non-material da’wah). The fact that we have Islamic lands invaded today does not add or subtract from *this* point, that is, that the nusrah can be won by da’wah.
2. People of nusrah need to see a group of believers ‘walk the walk’.
Again a rational point, but one I would not argue with. However sacrificing is not only done through actual fighting. Calling to account the oppressive rulers constantly and consisently, exposing them to the people, calling for Khilafah, inspite of the consequential imprisonment, torture, and at times killing is sacrifice. In fact it is the same sacrifice of the Messenger (saw) in Makkah.
This point is all the more relevant when the respected Imam goes on to say that by ‘Jihad fi Sabilillah’ he does only mean actual fighting.
3. Jihad al-Dafa’ is wajib.
We agree. I don’t why he says that ‘this is not where HT stands’. This is precisely where we stand.
4. Example of Taliban and IC in Somalia.
I think these are bad examples, because neither of these groups were originally established to work for khilafah. The Taliban was formed post-soviet repulsion to unite the fighting factions in Afghanistan. Aided and funded by the ISI and the US. They fought the other factions in Afghanistan to unite the country and then, seeing the opportunity, sought to implement Islamic rule. Now, unless using aid from the enemy is part of the method to establish khilafah, this is not a method to establish khilafah and never was. The Islamic rule only come from the opportunity which later presented itself. With no planning beforehand the endeavor was bound to fail.
Second, the hizb sent a delegation to the Taliban and offered to give bay’ah and put all our resources behind them if they declared khilafah. They refused explicity saying that they did not intend khilafah, rather only an emirate.
Third, blaming the Ummah for the failure is not right. We all know the Ummah generally is declined and in need of revival. Those for stand for the revival must win the support and backing. We cannot do own thing, fail and then blame the failure on the Ummah. Question is what did we do to get the Ummah on side?
5. Jihad not only including fighting.
This distinction made at the end is important. But if we leave out the actual fighting, we are left with the battle for hearts and minds, which is nothing but the ‘discussions’ the Imam critiqued HT methodology on. Question is, how is the battle on the battlefield and the battle for hearts and mind co-ordinated? Are they two separate battles where the leaders of each don’t really know the others, nor collobarate with them? That would not than be a method, but two different methods assumed to be one. If it is to be a proper method, the effort must be co-ordinated centrally. This is clearly not the case as I see it. I’d be happy to be corrected on this point however.
For the above reasons I think it is the method proposed here that will not work.
However, nothing would make us happier than to see it work, or any other method work, and the khilafah to be re-established. We would be right behind anyone who succeed, regardless of method.
And Allah Knows Best.
Uthman
moinul (london) on August 30th, 2008 at 12:21 am #
I agree with br. kashif amins comment above, though i take some issue on stating ‘âHowever the method of HT to re-establish khilfah is simply not going to work. To wait for nusrah until it arrives is to wait for a miracle.” Though i know it is an accepted literary style to view ones own method to be correct, and think ‘ht’s method not working’ is not meant to reject a difference in opinion but rather the Sheikhs opinion. Thats my excuses for the brother.
As the jihad based on capability is based on daleel, which anyone is welcome to read one of their books: (dawa to Islam)to see their opinions is based on daleel and their disagreement with others is based on the understanding of the daleel.
On a positive not, its good to see the sheikh has (in my opinion) pointed out that the ones who call for tarbiyya and gradualism and sharing power with kuffar (democracy) as ‘the method’ is self defeating, which the arguments are in line with HT’s disagreements with these methods in the book ‘concepts of hizb ut tahrir’. I think some of us who are aware of Br. Anwar’s opinions are not ‘hearbroken’ that the sheikh disagrees with us as we still value his works (even if we disagree on issues regarding method), reputation and knowledge. Also the brother has repeatly ststaed the importance of many groups that benefit in other ways. The Hizb however have had many knowledgable people disagree with the them, as even amonsgt Jihadi’s there are differences in method.
Let us go into Ramadan with brotherhood and mercy to one another.
Aqsa on August 30th, 2008 at 1:32 am #
Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatuallahi wa barakatuhu
Jihad was forbidden in Makkah era and only after the establishment of state in madina ,ruling on forbiddence of Jihad was abrogated.But for the re-establishment of Khilafah ,if we take from the seerah of makkah era ,the part “jihad is forbidden” then its an abrogated ruling which can never be applied as abrogated rulings are simply abrogated.
2:216. Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.
was’salaam.
abdullah on August 30th, 2008 at 2:01 am #
salams
the last post by kashif amin is an excellen post, but i believe the zealous youth that look up to the shaykh will take this as another means to snear at HT, i think the shaykh shld mention the struggle of HT, farhard usmanov was boiled in water in uzbek and others given 2yrs for distributing a leaflet, i take it the shaykh disagrees with HT but credit needs to be given where it is due, inshallah
Abu Musa on August 30th, 2008 at 2:20 am #
Assalamu Alaikum,
With all due respect HT fail to recognise several things:
1. That the Rulers cannot be Taghut and Muslims at the same time. The Qur’an never refers to the living Taghut as being from the believers.
2. Like Shaykh Anwar pointed out the Prophet(saw) did not have “Islamic Lands” in Makkah that coild be invaded. There was no Islamic Land until Madina became the Islamic State and Islam spread. Therefore if you look to the history we find that the Colonialist and their Agents occupied lands of the Khilafah (Muslim Lands) and used a divide and rule policy… and placed puppet Agent-Rulers. The Muslim Lands are still occupied whether by Colonialists or their Agent Rulers. The ball is in HTs court to prove that the local Agent of the Kuffar should be treated differently than the foreign Kuffar.
3. How can Nussrah be sought from the Army backing the Taghut Ruler. When Allah(swt) says:
“Those who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight you against the friends of Shaytaan; Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Shaytaan.” [an-Nisa 4:76]
These Armies fight in the cause of Taghut. They are hence the Awliyah of Shaytan and it is ordered that they are fought.
4. That the Hadeeth of Ubadah Ibn Samit(ra) and others permit the rising up against the ruler who commits Kufr Buwah. Yet HT restrict this to a Khaleefa only without the necessary restriction upon the cause. These Ahadith refer to the ‘ruler’ in the general sense and do not even use the word Khaleefa. Ruling by Islam is also a default Fard on Muslims by clear-cut texts, so if someone is a Muslim in authority he does not have non-shari’ah options. He either implements Islam or face the consequences. To say it only applies to the Khaleefa merely gives Rulers who may claim to be Muslim a green light to do Kufr Buwah without being fought. Hence it only works as a get-out-clause for not facing the sword. Ruling by Islam is Fard on MUSLIMS, not on the one merely taking the title of ‘Khaleefa’.
5. The Greater Pledge of al-Aqabah i.e. The Pledge of WAR. Effectively gave the Muslims permission to use force to establish the first Islamic State. Thats why the Ansar came out with spears and wearing their leopard skins. So a Military Coup was under way in Madinah.
6. The establishment of the Khilafah has become Fard Ayn according to HT. Then how come someone else (some Army General) has to seize power? It cannot be Fard Ayn if you get someone else to do it!? Surely every action that leads to Fard Ayn, is Fard Ayn itself… including seizing power by force. Otherwise its like me making Wudu then Imam Anwar praying the Salah based on my Wudu.
7. Jihad is the way to establish the Shari’ah. Allah(swt) says:
“Fight them until their is no more Fitnah and the Deen is totally for Allah” [a;-Anfal 8:39]
So Allah(swt) in the completed revelation is telling us that the fitnah must be removed and the Deen will totally be for Allah(swt) when we FIGHT for it. And the wording is such that the limit of the fighting is ‘until’ the Deen is totally for Allah(swt).
Shaykh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said: “if part of the deen is for Allah
and another is for other than him, fighting is obligatory until the deen is totally for Allah alone.” [al-Fataawa 28/354]
It is even clearer towards the end of Surah al-Anfal as to what will be the cause of the Fitnah as elaborated by Imam Qurtubi():
“And those who disbelieve are allies to one another, (and) if you (Muslims of the whole world collectively) do not do so (i.e. become allies, as one united block with one Khalifah - chief Muslim ruler for the whole Muslim world to make victorious Allâh’s Religion of Islâmic Monotheism), there will be Fitnah (wars, battles, polytheism, etc.) and oppression on earth, and a great mischief and corruption (appearance of polytheism)” [al-Anfal 8:73]
Being patient and holding back our hands from fighting was only because Allah(swt) had not yet revealed the order. Today this is a non-issue as the orders have been revealed and revelation is complete.
Jihad is to make the Word of Allah(swt) the highest. Yet is that not very thing establishing Deen is?
Jazakallahkahir you have put my heart at peace with this response, imam anwar al awlaki wallahi i love you for the sake of Allah and may Allah swt preserve you, thank you for speaking the truth about the hizbies, and there unrealistic ways of trying to establish a khalifa, let alone there errors in aqeedah, May Allah swt guide us and keep us steadfast on our deen
abu_dharaar on August 30th, 2008 at 7:00 am #
Asalamualikum br/sis.
Sheikh Anwar Al awlaki’s words are not debatable. I just find nothing but truth in his words.” no dialouge no peace…Jihad with ….Alone”…Remember, what Sheikh Abdullah Azam said, ” Tawheed is not instilled in your heart by listening to some tapes or reading some books of tarbiya, it is instilled in your heart when bullets are being sprintted around you and you scream “la ilaha ilallah”" So, Ikhwaanis need to put their words into practical manifestation and when we see the reslts , we will give them credit. So far , all we see is ht blending in kuffur system and calling for khilafa. Did our prophet (saw) blend into quraish system to establish Islamic system?? Ikhwaani br need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Jazakallah Khair
NOTE:- I am a peacefull muslim and do not support or propogate voilence in any shape or form. I believe justice should be implemented to acheive peace: )
Peace to non-muslims
Peace and blessings to my br/sister
Asalamualikum wr wb
abu_dharaar on August 30th, 2008 at 7:04 am #
Sheikh Anwar Asalamualiku,
I just have a request, insha Allah. I am not sure if you are following the news about Kashmir but to give a breif desciption what is happening can be summarized in few simple words- KASHMIR IS BURNING. Please, give some word of advice to br/sis living in Kashmir.
Jazakallah Khair
Kashif Amin on August 30th, 2008 at 8:30 am #
Asalaamu Alaykum,
Once again I appeal to all the commenters to have sabr with each other. I think it is great Alhumdulillah that so many of us believe Khilafah to be of monumental importance for this Ummah. Regarding difference of opinion: let us all recall that the most prominent of Sahaaba (May Allah swt be pleased with them) had vastly different opinions. AbuBakr and Umar (RA) almost always disagreed on matters. Yet the both worked for a common goal. This should be our example. Our common goal is Khilafah. Therefore we should all strive with whatever abilities we have been blessed with to achieve this goal. No disrepect to any of the brothers above, but after many years of meeting HT brothers I have never found them to be anything but sincere in their work for Khilafah. Of course, that is my personal experience. In any case, let us not let our greatest enemy AsShaytaan, divide us at this critical point. Ameen.
Assalamualikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakakatuhu Brother Skaikh Awlaki,
Hope you are in best health and eeman. Ameeen
Brother Awlaki, here is the view of one HT bro from UK:
“Assalamu alaikum sheikh
InshaAllah you and your family are well and your salaah is accepted.
In reply to the issue of HT which you presented I would like to provide the following points inshaAllah.
First is the point that you raised saying that the people of nusrah can only be won over through being shown examples and not through debates or discussions. Assuming that is correct, I do not see this as an argument against HT as we too try to live by Islam and we too have martyrs executed and tortured to death throughout the Muslim world not to mention those who fill the prisons in Asia and the Middle East. This is the struggle of all who call for Islam but our weapon as HT is our words and our discussions and this is the path we chose to tread to try and soften the hearts by the will of Allah and win over at least one man who might be able to establish a home for this homeless ummah.
The method in its detail as mentioned by sheikh an Nabhani (may Allah have mercy on him) does not envolve simply getting that man or group of men who are able to establish the state. HT in the 50s had that opportunity in Iraq (the current Shia Dawah party leaders are mostly former HT back in the 50s and 60s) but the sheikh refused to take it saying that the people of Iraq were not ready for such responsibility. The nusrah will only be accepted when the region this nusrah can influence does indeed have that call for Islamic rule within their hearts - again a reflection of the environment the prophet (saaws) searched for to establish his dawla (state) and found it in Medinah.
As for your differentiation between the prophet’s environment and ours by stating that today Muslim lands are occupied whilst at the time of the prophet it was not, I would argue that although in the litteral sense the word “occupation” does create a difference, but in the practical sense the situation of the ummah in terms of oppression, injustice and tyranny - be it the result of occupation or not, it is the very same environment as that of the prophet’s time (saaws).
As for the issue of whether jihad is fard or not, I would agree with you that it is fard to protect your home, land, honour and family. However I would also argue that there is a difference between my reaction when someone breaks into my home or when someone invades half of the Muslim lands while the other half is living under oppression from puppet rulers. Where my home is invaded I would indeed protect my self and fight the oppressor as I have no other choice and it is indeed an obligation.
But in the second scenario my response is that whether I fight off the Americans out of Iraq or not, as long as I do not have the tools of a state, a regular army and an economic policy by my side I cannot keep the Americans out. If we liberate Palestine today what will stop Morrocco being occupied tomorrow? If we liberate Chechenia today what will stop Yemen to be occupied tomorrow? But if we have a state we can depend on then liberation is fat’h and the machinery of the state will insure by Allah’s will that we will be protected from oppressors and those who aid them.
As for the Taliban and the courts, although they indeed established a state (yet as you rightfully state are far from perfect - infact I believe the Taliban at the time were after a Saudi model of “Emirate”) their fault lies in the fact that they had no plan and what they established was a weak state that fell apart at its first confrontation with the West. Indeed the prophet (saaws) went to over 40 tribes in search of nusrah and some who accepted to give it to him were too weak that he told them to wait…
Indeed the prophet (saaws) went to over 40 tribes in search of nusrah and some who accepted to give it to him were too weak that he told them to wait and continued his search elsewhere. He (saaws) did not establish the state in the first place he found acceptance in.
Jazakallahu kula khair for your article and inshaAllah Allah will guide the ummah to what is best for her.
assalamu alaikum”
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Abdul Hakeem on August 30th, 2008 at 6:44 pm #
Assalam wa alaikum
1. To my knowledge HT considers its methodology based on Ijtihad and accepts the methodology of fighting to establish the Khilafah as an Ijtihad although they disagree with it but they consider it as based on daleel.
2. Regarding the earlier point made by someone that they asked Khomeni to implement Islam as they do with all rulers, this is part of Amr bil ma’ruf. I advise the brother to read the actual letter they wrote to Khomeni and the subsequent refutation of the entire Iranian constitution that HT issued after the revolution.
3. Regarding the issue of Shi’a, anyone who is knowledgeable about HT’s literature will know that the adopted books of HT have presented a detailed refutation of their invalid ideas such as the infallibility of the Imams, please refer to the adopted HT book ‘Shaskiya Islamiyya Volume 2′, the chapter entitled ‘The Khilafah state is a human state not a theocratic state’ and the book ‘The ruling system in Islam’ in a chapter with the same heading for an excellent usuli refutation of their thoughts.
It is well known that whatever background a person i.e. whether he is from a Sunni or Shi’a background they can only became a member of HT if they adopt the thoughts, opinions and rules contained in the adopted books of HT. If they don’t subscribe to these they cannot be members, therefore even if a member of HT was from a Shi’a background for him to become a member he has to abandon their wrong thoughts and actually actively propogate the adopted refutations of those thoughts.
4. Regarding the issue of the ayat of Jihad abrogating the methodology of the Prophet (saw) in establishing Dar al-Islam. This argument doesnt stand as:
We have to seperate between the Masa’il (issues), the issue of Jihad is to do with defending and propogating Islam to the world. The issue of establishing Dar al-Islam is a different mas’ala (issue). Anyone familiar with the subject of Naskh (abrogation) in Usul al-Fiqh would know that for one hukm to abrogate another it must be related to the same subject not other subjects. The scholars of the past have already documented the ahkam that were abrogated and they did not include the ahkam regarding the methodology to establish Dar al-Islam. For example the verse; âTherefore proclaim openly that which you are commanded.â [TMQ 15:94]. Has it been abrogated? Sid the scholars of the past include it in the ahkam that have been abrogated? No, it is a Sharâee rule that must be implemented and is related to the methodology to establish Khilafah.
Have the evidences in the Sunnah containing the ahkam of seeking nussrah been abrogated? Which contain clear Qara’in (indications) that the Prophet (saw) did them as a fard and therefore in emulation of him we are also obliged to do the same - such as the fact that the Prophet (saw) was rebuked and even physically harmed in pursuit of the nussrah such as from the people of Ta’if, yet he continued to persist in that until Allah (swt) granted it to him at the hands of the Ansar in Madina.
Therefore that argument is invalid. HT doesn’t only consider the Makkan stage as some claim, it takes the deen as a whole and takes the ahkam as a whole regardless whether they were revealed in Makkah or in Madina.
5. Regarding the issue of Jihad being Fard Ain.
From the HT adopted Book Shakhsiyah Islamiyah Volume 2 page 156 fourth edition printed 1995 ce and 1416: âJihad is fard Kifayah to inititiate (the fighting) and Fard Ayni when the enemy attacks, upon the ones who are being attacked (ala man haajimuhum) and fard kifayah upon the rest (of the Ummah). This fard is not silenced until the enemy has been repelled and the Islamic land has been purified from its rijs impurityâ.
The following is HT’s position as I understand it from its official literature:
If an Islamic country was exposed to attack from the enemy, then the fight against the enemy becomes fard âain (personal obligation) upon the people of that land (country). If the repelling of the enemy could not happen with the inhabitants of this land, than it becomes fard âain upon the Muslims who are the nearest (geographically) to this land, then those who follow them (geographically) and so on until the repelling of the enemy is achieved, even if this obligation included all of the Muslims.
If the enemy occupied the country and dominated over the Muslims within it and imposed its authority upon them and they became unable to fight against it, to remove the authority from them, then they are treated as if the are captives (prisoners of war). The fard âain, in this case, would be upon the Muslims who came next to them (geographically) and so on, until the occupation is removed and the country returns to Bilad al Islam (the land of Islam).
To say that Jihad becomes fard âain on Muslims means that it is upon those who are capable amongst them, i.e. the armies and those who are like them (i.e. have military power). This is because the âcapabilityâ (Istitaâah) is (indirectly) understood in every hukm sharâi. Therefore it is incorrect to change the definition and thus say that Jihad is fard âain upon the armies instead of upon the Muslims, this is because the mentioning of âMuslimsâ is more general, and it is clear in it that it is a duty (fard) upon those who are qualified and have the capability and ability to fighting in the manner which the sharaâ has explained.
This can be seen in history when Palestine was occupied by the Crusaders for 100 years, the scholars said Jihad against them was Fard Ain, however did they all practically oblige everyone to move there and go to fight? In fact if this was the case all the scholars themselves would have moved there and fought against the crusaders which clearly didn’t happen. Therefore it is clear that they understood the hukm in the same way and this is the classical position.
The unity of the Muslim countries is a fard, and the fight against the enemy who attacks is also a fard. The fact that the Muslims countries are not united and their armies are divided does not mean that it is a duty to first unify their armies then thereafter fight against their enemy, based upon the consideration that one army is not sufficient to remove the occupation. Rather Muslims are obliged to work to achieve all the duties, so they establish a state that unites their countries and unites their armies, and also they fight their enemy if they are attacked and do not hesitate from doing so under the pretext of waiting until they unify their armies.
Any ruler from amongst the Muslim countries, who declare the fight against the kafir enemy and orders his army to move for battle, then the duty upon the army, is to move to fight the kafir enemy as long as the fight is against the kuffar. The Ummah is obliged to support that unless the ruler moves the army to fight against the Muslims or drives the army to fall (a planned defeat) in a planned trap to enable the enemy to kill a large number of Muslims. In these two cases, that is to fight against the Muslims and the conspiracy with the enemy to kill the Muslims, it is not allowed to fight (together) with the rulers, and in this case the Ummah and the army have to prevent the rulers and make the fight against the kuffar and not against the Muslims.
The discussion with the Ummah should be to explain the hukm shariâ in fighting the enemy if they occupied any of the Muslim countries or in case they declared war against them, and to show that the rulers have cancelled Jihad. Also that it is a duty upon the armies to move so as to fight against the enemy and so on so as to move the rulers who suspend the Jihad, and to move also to establish the Khilafah State and appoint a Khaleefah who rules with that which Allah (swt) has revealed and makes Jihad fe Sabeelillah. Calling the Ummah and her armies to execute this fard is one of the actions of the Hizb, which they perform, which should be according to the method explained in the stages of the progression of the Hizb.
6. One of the most comprehensive books written on the subject of Jihad is by a member of HT, it was thesis from the University of Damascus, Syria entitled âAl-Jihad waâl Qital fi as-Siyasa ash-Sharâiyyaâ, published in Beirut, Lebanon by Dar al-Bayariq in 3 Volumes by Sheikh Dr. Muhammad Khair Haykal. The scanned Arabic book can be downloaded from:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/09a0e953-a43a-44c4-884b-d9db36e3be6f/Al-Jihad-wa%E2%80%99l-Qital-fi-as-Siyasa-ash-Shar%E2%80%99iyya%E2%80%99
It also contains the discussion in depth regarding the methodology to re-establish the Khilafah and the evaluation of various proposed methodologies.
Wassalam
Abdul Hakeem on August 30th, 2008 at 7:10 pm #
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I forgot to answer the question posed earlier regarding seeking Nussrah from the Taghut regimes. Please study HT’s official literature regarding this, HT calls the rulers of the Muslim world today Munafiq’s, see their recent letter to the rulers: http://www.khilafah.com/index.php/activism/middle-east/57-middle-east/3371-ht-sends-delegation-to-all-the-rulers-in-the-muslim-world
However as the Prophet (saw) strove to seek Nussrah by firstly putting a condition that the tribe embraces Islam and secondly protect him and establish the deen. HT too emulates this same method, so it is conditional for any person of power in order to give the nussrah to do it based on the condition that they first embrace Islam if they are not already Muslim. Even though the rulers may be Munafiq’s many of the people in the armies and influential Muslims in society are Muslim and thus winning a sufficient number of them and then for them to establish the Khilafah is definitely possibly.
Even Sheikh Anwar mentions in his Seerah series that not all of the Aus and Khazraj embraced Islam, in fact the second pledge of Aqaba was secret - he goes through the narration when Abu Sufyan found out about it and confronted them and how the Muslims amongst them remained silent.
In the same way HT wins people from the armies, tribes, influential people, etc in the Muslim world and cultures them in secret if needed to be Islamic personalities and then when they have the sufficient capability to take the power - they move for that so that the ruler can be removed and the Khilafah can be established. It is true that HT has attempted many coups in the Muslim world, the victory is in the hands of Allah (swt) - we have to keep trying according to an Islamic methodology.
wassalam
Ibraheim on August 30th, 2008 at 7:32 pm #
Salam Alaykum,
There are many good points for both sides of the fence on this subject. I have never heard of HT until this post. I looked them up online and found out as much as I can about them.
As far as change is concerned consider the story of the Mahdi. It states that he will have a force of around 300 and because this force is pure (fighting for the sake of Allah) Allah will grant them victory.
So if a force of just 300 with the right intentions can get victory what is the Ummah capable of today? Is there not 300 among us today with the correct intentions?
There are so many signs happening today that indicate the Mahdi may not be too far away but we should still strive to do our best.
May Allah grant us all brotherhood and give us a pure Ummah with a pure Khalifah!
abu xayd on August 30th, 2008 at 9:34 pm #
Rasulullah says: I was sent with the sword until Allah alone is worshiped. dear brothers and sisters in islam! be shame on youself? among the few mujaahid is doing the duty of farl ayn.and we all are sitting at home and saying so and so.today you all are sleeping at your home on your beds, staying with your families is because of them.they are the one’s and you can’t gain the victory without shedding blood? brother awlaki you are among few of scholar who are in haqq ,so go on as ibn tamiya and ahmed bin hanbal. you were inprison because you was in haqq. and if we follow the majority we will be in hell. so those who are in haqq today will be minority.
abu xayd on August 30th, 2008 at 10:02 pm #
salaam to all. please be inform if new moon sight to any of muslim country. Jazaakallah ahiren
Jaleel on August 31st, 2008 at 12:39 am #
Barakallahuu feek Imam, I am a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir and regard you as one of my teachers. On this matter, however I think you may have not received the complete information about our methodology. I pray you can meet us in Yemen sometime and we can discuss this most vital issue based upon daleel shari and with pure intentions.
Soon, my ustadh, the world will change by Allah’s command, and then we shall take our rightful place as the leader of the world.
salamualaykum shiekh, mashallah very simple but powerful answer. may AllAH mke things easy for u and ur family and preserve u.Ameen. Wallahi after your talk “the dust will neva settle” and this article, i hav realised that all wat pple hav to do is go bak to the main sources, they are the, Quran, Sunnah and the seerah of the rasululah S.A.W. BUT IN THE OTHERHAND I THINK PPLE NO TO DO THIS BUT ITS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE 1) MISLEAD BY SELL OUT SCHOLLERS 2)THEY ARE AFFRAID TO SPEAK AND NOT WILLING TO SACRAFICE ANYTHNG FOR ALLAH AFTER ALL THE INCOMPREHENDBLE COUNTLESS BLESSINGS ALLH HAS BESTOWED UPON US. SUBHANNALAH
Khalid on August 31st, 2008 at 1:10 am #
Assalaam Wa Alaikum brothers
May Allah’s blessing be with each and every one. May Allah grant us Taqwa and steadfastness.
I have Alhamdolillah listened to almost all of Imam Al-Awlaki’s lectures and am very grateful to Allah Subhano wa TaAllah that these lectures have changed my life. I firmly believe that Imam Anwar is a man without fear other than the fear of Allah Subhano wa TaAllah. I also believe that he conveys his message without fear and according to his great research on Quran and Hadith. May Allah Subhano wa TaAllah protect him from Shaitaan, the rejected. Ameen.
I donât know who HT is, or what they are exactly doing other than what I have read in this Blog. I do know one thing, if you respect an Imam, you think he is a person of Taqwa, you have listened to him, and be grateful to what he has done to change your life; I think you should follow him as well. There should be no buts, however, although etc. etc. Opinions should only be given if you have more knowledge than that person, or better yet, have more Taqwa. But remember to be very respectful and try not to shame him. Donât say âI respect you oh Imam, you are very truthful, BUT I would have to disagree with you on this point. These were the paths of the hypocrites.
How can we appoint a Khalifah? Very simple, pick a man who has the most Taqwa; why is it taking 70 years to find one? What is wrong with this Ummah, you ask? A lot of different opinions with no clue what we are saying, without any knowledge of what is right or wrong, no knowledge of Quran and Hadith, and especially not following the words of the respected Imamâs. This is what is wrong with us.
I donât know how many live here in the US, but Imam is not respected in our Masajid, he is only there to lead prayers, Shoora is full of people who sometimes donât pray, Shoora is full of doctors, IT engineers who have no knowledge about Quran and Sunnah, and whoever has contributed the most of the money to build a Masjid, and most of the times the money for the Masjid is from people who want to convert their Haraam money into Halaal (so they think). We are people who have gone astray. We are following the path of Bani Israel who always questioned the Nabi and always had a lot to show and say but their hearts were weak. Every time they were told to do something out of their normal lives, it was questioned, made fun of and considered extremism.
So what has changed?? We are still pointing fingers at our Imams, disrespecting them, always having our own opinions without knowledge, belief or any guidance. When someone tries to guide us, we think we are more knowledgeable than that person. How can you people appoint a Khalifah, when you have differences in opinions than your Imam???? How can you people offer Jihad Fisabeehlilah when you ask questions and have doubts. Bani Israel did the same thing with Musa Aleh Salaam and Allah Subhano wa TaAllah destroyed them. Fear Allah Subhano wa TaAllah, Please.
May Allah forgive me if I have said anything to offend anyone, it was not my intentions.
JazakAllah Kahir
Ibn Abdul on August 31st, 2008 at 3:27 am #
Salam Imam (brother) Anwar. I hope you are well. May Allah (swt) protect you and this ummah.
I have read your response and the subsequent comments. Brothers and sisters seem to be having 2 discussions. One on Khilafah, the other on Jihad. You say Jihad will bring back Khilafah, and the HT method is not going to work because the Muslim lands are occupied now, but there was not Muslim land during the time of the Prophet (saw) hence the Prophet’s way (saw) does not applie here.
Then brother can you please explain how you view this hadith “Hudhaifah (raa) has said that the Prophet (saws) said
“The Prophethood will remain among you for as long as Allah wills, then Allah will lift it when He wishes to, then it will be a Khilafah Rashidah (Rightly Guided) on the method of the Prophethood, it will remain for as long as Allah wills, then Allah will lift it if He wishes, then it will be a hereditary leadership which will remain for as long as Allah wills, then He will lift it if he wishes, then it will be a tyrannical rule, and it will remain so for as long as Allah wills, then He will lift it if He wishes, THEN IT WILL BE KHILAFAH ON THE METHOD OF PROPHETHOOD, then he kept silent.”
All the others have happend apart from “then it will be khilafah on the method of Prophethood”.
Thank you, masalama
Nozmul Hussain on August 31st, 2008 at 5:29 am #
I have always respected the sheikhs knowledge and strength, and his unwillingness to bow under the pressure of the enemies of islam. BUT, the proof of an argument or view are on the daleel (evidence), members and scholars from most groups whether it be HT, ikhwan or jihadi groups have been tortured, imprisoned and martyred. In the muslim/arab world speeking the truth and calling for khilafah, speaking agianst the tyrant rulers is usually enough to land you in prison, torture and in many well documented cases execution by the rulers, ALL without having picked up a gun.
Nozmul Hussain on August 31st, 2008 at 5:34 am #
The brothers who are actively fighting to protect their lands from the aggressors, my dua and love is with them. People like the sheikh have suffered for holding on to his views, even though i may not agree with him on this matter i respect him greatly, but to those who are the armchair jihadis of whome there are many, do not attack iman/taqwa of those who do not agree with your method as atleast they are ACTIVELY working inline with their own manhaj.
May Allah swt reward our sheikh Anwar Al Awlaki, Who speaks the haqq, a great blog which talks about the khalifah issue, i think it was time that it needed to be addressed,as many groups go about it the wrong way,may Allah swt guide us to the sunnah, and there is no doubt if ppl actually look into HT they will see what baatil(Falsehood) they are upon, from there errors in aqeedah to there uniting upon baatil(falsehood) i.e. with the rafidah, the prophet pbuh said “my ummah will never unite upon falsehood” so if one is sincere in searching for the sunnah they will find it and will stay away from HT, we ask Allah swt to makes uf rom the ppl on the sunnah, Asalam Alakum Rahmutlah Wa Barakatu
mj on August 31st, 2008 at 11:20 am #
does anyone know the quran reciter in anwars lectures the one with the nice voice?
Umar on August 31st, 2008 at 12:17 pm #
Salaam Alaikum. I would like to respond to brother Khalid, who in an earlier post, stated âI do know one thing, if you respect an Imam, you think he is a person of Taqwa, you have listened to him, and be grateful to what he has done to change your life; I think you should follow him as well. There should be no buts, however, although etc. etc.â It should be understood that you cannot blindly follow somebodyâs opinion just because he seems to have knowledge. You can only do taqleed on the Mujtahid. You also said âBut remember to be very respectful and try not to shame him. Donât say âI respect you oh Imam, you are very truthful, BUT I would have to disagree with you on this point.â These were the paths of the hypocrites.â Essentially what your saying is that we are not allowed to disagree with somebodyâs point just because he has knowledge? This way of thinking results in the decline in our level of thinking. This idea is not from Islam. In fact, the Sahaba (ra) differed on topics.. The foundation of Islam is built on rational thinking, not blind faith. My last point is that nobody is infallible but the Prophets, so it is possible that even âUlema make mistakes. We donât blindly follow sheukh, we follow the evidences they use. I would also like to comment on the statements made my many commenting here referring to Hizb ut-Tahrir as being deviants, having errors in their aqeedah etc⌠Before you make assumptions based on propaganda against Hizb ut-Tahrir, you should investigate the matter with sincerity. If you hear claims made against Hizb ut-Tahrir, refer to their adopted literature to read first hand what they have to say about the issue. Wa Salaam Alaikum.
Being a Shabab of HT, I do condemn Shias and their Saksiya and I firmly hold the belief that we can not establish Khilafah without Jihad fee sabilillah. Hence, with due respect to my fellow beloved hizbis, I differ with the methodology of HT. This is to remind you brothers that am not here to create divisions and let’s come to the common grounds that we badly need to unite and establish Khilafah Minhaj an-Nabuwa and with reference to Sura Anfal 8:73 and Sura Nur 24:55. However, our beloved Shaikh Imam Anwar Awlaki stressed some points that we all hizbis should take into account. Here are the lectures that we all should ponder upon:
The Stages of Islam To Victory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkbFDTc8ZGs
Allah is preparing us for victory! {Guraaba Version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bue0RTY5kDA
Allah is preparing us for victory! [THIS LECTURE IS A MUST LISTEN FOR EVERY MUSLIM TODAY!](Complete lecture)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltcxJb29lqc
Thawaabit âala darb al Jihad:
-Jihad will continue until the Day of Judgment
-Jihad does not depend on an individual or individuals
-Jihad is not dependent on a particular land
-Jihad is not dependent on a battle
-Victory is not limited to military victory
-The definition of defeat
Download this book: http://www.hoor-al-ayn.com/Books/constants.pdf
Lectures of Sheikh Anwar Awlaki on HIJRA:
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/showthread.php?t=876
Also visit Kalamullah.com and find all his astonishing lectures insha Allaah!
Lastly but not the least:
1) The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said: âA Taaâifah (Group) from my Ummah will remain upon the Truth â Mansoorah (Victorious, by the support of Allah); they will not be harmed by those who abandon them, nor by those who oppose them, until the command of Allah comes.â In another narration: ââŚuntil the Hour (of Judgement) comes.â
[al-Bukhaaree, Muslim, Abu Daawood, at-TirmidheeâŚSee: Silsilah al-Ahaadeeth as-Saheehah, 4/597-604, Al-Albaanee]
2) Hudhaifah (raa) has said that the Prophet (saws) said ââŚthen it will be a tyrannical (OPPRESSIVE) rule, and it will remain so for as long as Allah wills, then ALLAH will lift it if HE wishes, then it will be a KHILAFAH on the method of the Prophethood (Minhaz an-Nabuwaa), then he kept silent.â
[As-Silsilah As-Sahihah, vol. 1, no. 5] and (Musnad Imam Ahmed 4/273)
3) âAllah will RAISE for this community at the end of every HUNDRED years one who will revive His Deen.â
[Abu Dawood (3/4278), Authenticated by al-Albanee in as-Saheehah (2/150)]
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Wassalamualikum wr wb
Saleh Abd Allah
UMW
Abu Daud on August 31st, 2008 at 2:20 pm #
“does anyone know the quran reciter in anwars lectures the one with the nice voice?”
I’m not really sure which one you mean as they all seem to have beautiful voices to me, but I would suggest you check out:
1- Ahmad Al Ajmy
listen/download here: http://www.mp3quran.net/eng/ajm_english.html
2- Saad Al Ghamidi
listen/download here: http://www.mp3quran.net/eng/s_gmd_english.html
3- Mishay Al Efasy
listen/download here: http://www.mp3quran.net/eng/afs_english.html
I think, perhaps,the one you are looking for is one of these three.
Insha Allah, I hope this helps.
Abu Daud on August 31st, 2008 at 2:36 pm #
You may also want to try Abu Bakr Al Shatry…I think he is used sometimes as well in some of the lectures:
http://www.mp3quran.net/eng/shatri_english.html
Abu Mahjah on August 31st, 2008 at 2:47 pm #
Assallamu wa’Alaykum wa’Rahmuthullah.
I ask Allah (SWT) from His Most Beautiful Names and Lofty Attributes to keep Our Imam Anwar steadfast upon the path. Ameen Ya Rabb.
I just want to mention some point and Insha’Allah the Shaykh maybe add some points to this.
1. We could all agree that what Imam said was not from his whims and desires, from his lectures we could agree that the intention and sincerity from the Imam and also his level of knowledge is at a high caliber.
What the Shaykh has mentioned is something not knew, if you really are a student of knowledge and seek out the scholars of truth, you may seem to find the same message being proclaimed.These might not be on TV, or have lectures on CD but they are known amongst the scholars to be scholars.
The reason this discussion seemed to cause many confusion, because there seems to be a major problem in the West , the following are:
1. People do not know the correct Aqeedah, this is major problem amongst the masses in the West i.e. Al Walâaa walâBarâaa and Kum Bimah anzal Allah etc. But qualify this statement: not as learning principles, but having that affect in our heart. If we were understand our Lord, and the bounties, and pure trust and believe in Jannah, we would sacrifice everything knowing what He (SWT) has prepared for the believers. If you would just contemplate from Soorah Nur verse 55 they are many great lessons.
I would advice the brothers and sisters to read that verse, and contemplate its meanings.
2. Related to Aqeedah, we also lack of understanding of the Sunnah of the Allah (SWT), we do not know our history correctly. If you read the books of history, we would notice how Allah (SWT) given victory and succession to those people before us. And you would see a pattern.
3. Taifah & Fiqitul Naajah: We lack knowledge of the characteristics of the Saved Sect. we neither try to learn who they are, if you can not find them and become like them. There are few speakers that has touched on this topic, Ali â Tamimi has the âGhorabahâ series and Imam Anwar on âVictoryâ. If we were to understand this point, we could find the group you have these characteristics and find them in this world where ever they are.
4. I think we need to start examine all the hadeeth related to the end of times, we would see how Allah (SWT) will plan victory for the Ummah, and just look at the current situation and see the everything is coming together. I think we are very close to those times that the Prophet (SAW) was talking about the Amry from Ghurasaan, Ash-Shaams etc.
I would like to end what Imam Anwar said ââŚwe are going through a gold rushâŚand the Ahâjal is greatâŚâ so brothers decide what you going to do. We could talk about this issue all day, but that is all it will be talk, you could dream all night, but is just a dream. But Allah (SWT) says in Soorah Nur ââŚAllah (SWT) has promised those who believe and do righteous actionsâŚâ i.e. having believe in Allah and perform Jihad Fisi billah, because that is the great righteous actions.
And weather you agree you or disagree â..they do not fear the blame or the blamers..â
Subhanka behamdik, Ash Hadu La illah ah illant, Asfrillukah wa tubuâillak.
Your brother is Islam:
Kashif Amin on August 31st, 2008 at 4:49 pm #
to mj:
The Qari you are referring to (I think) is Sheikh Sad al Ghamdi. His qirat is beautiful MashAllah.
salaam wr wb…. why is the following event not highlighted ?
http://www.cageprisoners.com/campaigns.php?id=783
Abu Musa on August 31st, 2008 at 7:47 pm #
@ Abdul Hakeem.
It is good that you at least acknowledged the Rulers as Taghut.
Now the Deen is Complete… Allah(swt) has said: âThose who believe, fight in the Cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve, fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight you against the friends of Shaytaan; Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Shaytaan.â [an-Nisa 4:76]
So since they are Taghut they must be fought together with those who fight in their cause. Do these Armies fight in the cause of Allah(swt) or the cause of Taghut? You will find that they fight in the cause of the Taghut Rulers whose thrones they cement.
So the the Taghut and those who fight in its cause are fought. And then there is only one way to remove their Fitnah and establish the Deen totally for Allah(swt).
âFight them until their is no more Fitnah and the Deen is totally for Allahâ [al-Anfal 8:39] Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal(rh) said, “Fitnah sets in when there is no Imam (i.e. Caliph) to manage the Muslims’ affairs.”
So if no Khilafah brings us Fitnah, then fighting is prescribed to remove the fitnah and establish the Deen of Allah(swt) again in its totality.
This shows the vital importance of taking the COMPLETE DEEN into consideration and not just looking to a very limited period in time where the Prophet(saw) was order to hold back his hands from fighting.
The Prophet Muhammad(saw) said: âWhoever sees a Ruler as an oppressor, the one who violates the sanctity of Allah, the one who dishonours Allah, the one who governs other than what Allah has revealed and did not arise against him. Allah will raise them together on the day of judgment.â [Tabarani and Ahmad]
Abdul Hakeem on August 31st, 2008 at 9:10 pm #
AA
Some people use the hadith related to the Taifah al-Mansoora (The victorious group) and use it in order to prove that this related to groups today who are engaged in physical qitaal (fighting).
However we have to remember, the scholars of the past held various views regarding this.
The great scholar Ibn al-Mubaarak (d.151H) - rahimahullaah - said:
“According to me, they are Ashaabul-Hadeeth (the Scholars of Hadeeth).” [Sharafu Ashaabul-Hadeeth (p.26) of al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadee. ]
Al-Bukhari (d.256H) - rahimahullaah - said: “It means: Ahlul-Hadeeth (the People of Hadeeth).” [Sharafu Ashaabul-Hadeeth (p.27).]
Imaam Ahmad (d.241H) - rahimahullaah - said: “If this Taa’ifatul-Mansoorah (Victorious and Aided Group) is not Ashaabul-Hadeeth, then I do not know who they are.” [Related by al-Haakim in Ma'rifatu 'Uloomul-Hadeeth (p.3), and al-Haafidh Ibn Hajr declared its isnaad to be Saheeh in Fathul-Baaree (13/293).
Al-Qaadee 'Iyaad (d.544H) - rahimahullaah - said: "What Ahmad intended was Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah: those who hold the 'aqeedah of Ahlul-Hadeeth." [Sharh Saheeh Muslim (13/67) of an-Nawawee]
Many scholars said that the victorious group is the scholars of hadeeth.
Al-Nawawi said: âIt is possible that this group is scattered among all types of believers. Some may be brave fighters, or fuqahaaâ, or scholars of hadeeth, or ascetics, or people who enjoin good and forbid evil, and other types of good people.â
Al-Nawawi also said: âIt could be a group of different types of believers, including those who are brave and skilled in warfare, faqeehs, scholars of hadeeth, Qur’aanic commentators (mufassireen), those who enjoin good and forbid evil, ascetics and devoted worshippers.â
Ibn Hajar, may Allaah have mercy on him, explained the matter as follows: âThey do not have to all be in one city; they could be gathered in one country or dispersed across the world. They may be gathered in one city or in a part of it. It is possible that one group may exist, then disappear, then be replaced by another group, and so on, until the Day of Judgment, when all will disappear except for one group in one city, who will disappear when the breeze decreed by Allaah comes.â
Wassalam
AT on August 31st, 2008 at 9:40 pm #
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Muhammad Q. on August 31st, 2008 at 10:01 pm #
assalamu alaykum,
absolutely amazing answer, I couldn’t agree more.
[...] Although Shaykh al-Awlaki has a good deal of audio on many topics which is available on the internet (here is a good place to start for those interested), for the purposes of this post in this series I’m going to focus on Shaykh al-Awlaki’s lecture “The Battle of Hearts and Minds” and a recent post on his website in which he answered a question about the method for establishing the Khilafa. [...]
Brother Al Khurasani on September 1st, 2008 at 9:32 am #
Dear Ummah, Assalam-o-Alaikum wa Rehmat Ullah, May Allah reward Sheikh for his excellent answer and understanding of Deen. I would like to comment to HT brothers that Nifaq cannot be checked untill you physically try to go to battle field. For clear underdtanding of Jihad, you can hear Constants of Jihad and Mashari al Ashwaq by Sheikh Anwar Awlaki.When Sheikh says that its a more broader term it means that all the efforts that help for Qitaal fe sabeelillah are called Jihad, it can be letures delivered by Shayyukh, fund raising, helping families of Shuhada etc, key point is that all the efforts must support fighting against Enemy. To the concepts of HT that Farz ayn is only those who can fight, its a contradiction in itself, farz ayn is farz ayn, it does not give a waiver to any one, if some one just involve himself in any activity that helps to fight against the enemey it is Jihad and Qitaal is no wonder is some thing that only special people go for. May Allah purchase our lives for His sake.
Imam I love you for the sake of Allah. I wish to be with you in Jannah inshaAllah. TAKBEER TAKBEER TAKBEER.
mj on September 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am #
thank you for every1 who responded to my question asalam alaikum.
amir on September 2nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm #
brother can you please give u some information when a leader is a kaafir because some people have this story that is the leader believes in his heart then he is not a kaafir
Abdullah on September 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 pm #
Assalam wa alaikum
Dear Sheikh just to inform you, according to my knowledge the Shaheed General Dudayev who you referred to was actually a Daris (student) of Hizb ut-Tahrir when he was martyred.
ummar on September 2nd, 2008 at 9:37 pm #
to amir
go to
http://www.salafiyyah-jadeedah.tripod.com
you should find it there six reasons why the today leaders are kuffar. and what is their verdict by replacing shariah.
Brother Al Khurasani on September 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 am #
Answer to your question brother Amir,
In Islam we go by actions not by belief in hearts. If you hear the series of ” Life of Madina” by Sheikh Awlaki you would find your answer, but i would qoute here for you, After Ghazwa Bader Rasool Allah held Abbas(his uncle) as captive and asked him for Ransom,at that time Abbas said that Ya Rasool Allah dont you know that I am Muslim, so why you asking ransom from me, to this Rasool Allah replied that, we caught you with the Kuffar, if you claim to be muslim then it is a matter with you and Allah, we go by your actions not by what is in your heart. Therefore it is enough proof to see who is Kafir and who is Muslim, see their actions and see with whom they are standing with, as also mentioned in Surah Mujadlah ayat 22, “You will not find any people who beieve in Allah and the last day , making friendship with those who oppose Allah and his messenger” and todays rulers openly claim to be friends with Kuffar and not only declare but work for them as their eyes and hands.
For more reference you can also see Maida 44,51,54, Annissa 60, Al-Imran 28-100-118.
Kaalia on September 3rd, 2008 at 4:48 pm #
Could brother Anwar please elaborate on what he means that our lands have been invaded — countries like Saudi, Pakistan, UAE, Egypt, etc these countries have governments and structures setup that are governing the people and upholding peace for the populous and society — can we really fight against this and allow anarchy to ensue, as is evident in Iraq right now? If Jihaad is fardh ayn then who do we fight, where and how? Also it means that Khilafa is not the “objective” here, rather the objective is to simply fulfil the command to defend our lands… once we have defended them and expelled the invaders (who are they though?? and in which lands?-apart from the obvious in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc-) how THEN do we establish the Khilafa system and who do we appoint as the Khaleef and how does this all tie up with the Ahadith regarding the End of the World?
Ismail on September 4th, 2008 at 2:49 am #
Assalamu 3alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarkatahu.
First time poster, long time listener. Mashallah, what an informative answer. Two goats wouldnt butt heads over what you said.
Allahu Akbar.
Assalamu 3alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarkatahu
Brother Al Khurasani on September 4th, 2008 at 8:12 am #
MashaAllah brother Ismail, i second your comments…
for Mr. Kaalia, please read Quran and listen lectures by Sheikh like, Lives of the Prophets, Life of Madina and Makka… and various other series you can find at http://www.kalamullah.com
No doubt Allah gives Hidaya to whom He wills, May Allah opens up your eyes and heart to see the bleeding Ummah all over the world.
Abdullah on September 4th, 2008 at 1:31 pm #
I think people need to re-read the answer by Abdul-Hakeem regarding the issue of Fard Ayn, the argument is based on evidences. HT’s understanding is based on Ijtihad, people may differ with this Ijtihad but they have to acknowledge it as a legitimate Ijtihad - if people it should be argued based on evidences instead of simply repeating that Jihad is Fard Ayn.
The concept of capability is based upon the Islamic evidences, This is established by the Kitab and Sunnah. Allah (swt) states in the Quran:
âAllah does not place burdens upon people that they can not bear.â [TMQ]
The Messenger (saw) said in a Hadeeth that has been narrated from Imam Muslim in his Saheeh, (add Arabic) âWhat I have ordered you to undertake do of it what you are able and what I have prohibited to you then avoid itâ.
In History the parallels that can be drawn are from the occupation of al Andalus (Spain). The Ulema gave the Fatwa that the people who reside there were unable to fight effectively and that it was therefore necessary for them to make Hijra and Fard on the rest of the people to prepare a capable force for the fighting and removal (izalat) of their enemy.
I will also repeat the example which Abdul-Hakeem gave:
This can be seen in history when Palestine was occupied by the Crusaders for 100 years, the scholars said Jihad against them was Fard Ain, however did they all practically oblige everyone to move there and go to fight? In fact if this was the case all the scholars themselves would have moved there and fought against the crusaders which clearly didnât happen. Therefore it is clear that they understood the hukm in the same way and this is the classical position.
Akhi on September 4th, 2008 at 4:38 pm #
As Salam u Alayum, ya akhi i’ve noticed that uve asked the sheikh a question. He has answered with an answer that obviously doesn’t please you, beacuse you are probably HT along with a few other brothers commenting backing HT. HT are ahlul bidah, who scream for shariah, but do not practice shariah upon themselves. Follow the sunnah if you love the sahriah sooo much. Grow ur beards and stop looking like the kufaar. Follow the sunnah. and accept that HT are upon Baaatil!!! just like our sheikhs have said. including sheikhuna awlaki.
Akhi on September 4th, 2008 at 4:42 pm #
and Abdullah, stop trying to hide bidah with ijtihad. who made this ijtihad. from where did this come from. follow the quran and sunnah. The sheikh and our brother inshAllah shaheed in a previous comment further up gave you qal Allah wa qal Ar rasool. and ur chattin’ about ijtihad?!! fix up. stop following ur desires. HT are wrong, leave them and there falsehood. when they see the muslimeen succesful upon the sunnah then u will see HT, remixing the minhaj. these people have no ulema. none what so ever. !!!!!
Akhi on September 4th, 2008 at 4:48 pm #
classical, i always hear hamza yusuf and sufis hiding behind the banner of classical. munafiqeen are also classical, rafidah shia have “classical scholars.” be clear dont try and genralise. just because the term classical sounds tasty, u want blind evryone with that term, whooo??? whhoooo??? who are these “classical” ulema. who?? not one name u have given us abdullah. not one. no one to refrence, and to see whether he is a person of baatil. and bidah. fear Allah. the deen is clear. Allah has completed our relegion. we dont need no opinion of imaginery “classical” sheiks, who u so happened not to mention. fix up. follow the sunnah. listen to what the sheikh has given u. and stop fatwa shopping. no one on the sunnah supports HT. they are losers. ahlul bidah.
ABU YAHYA on September 4th, 2008 at 6:36 pm #
As-Salam-Ylakum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuh!
In response to my confused brothers and sisters. The enemy has, and possibly always will be stronger in man power, and weaponry, however Allah (swt) says, and it’s meaning QURAN 4:104 “And don’t be weak in the pursuit of the enemy; If you are suffering hardships, they are suffering similar hardships; but you have a hope from Allah that for which they hope not; and Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.”
Allah (swt) also warns us in regards to this matter of fear, and defeatism.
QURAN.3:175 “It is only Satan who instills (into you) fear of his allies; so fear them not, but fear Me, if you are indeed (truly) believers!”
And so Allah (swt) asks us.
QURAN.39:36 “Is not Allah sufficient for his Servant? Yet they try to frighten you with those (whom they worship) besides Him! And whom Allah leaves to stray, for them there can be no guide.”
QURAN.3:160 “If Allah helps you, none can overcome you: If He forsakes you, who is there, after that, that can help you? in Allah, then, Let the believers put their trust.”
QURAN.3:173 “Those unto whom men said: Lo! the people have gathered against you, therefore fear them. (The threat of danger) but it only increased them in faith and they cried: Allah is sufficient for us! and He is the best disposer of affairs.”
Therefore we can easily conclude that what the Ummah is experiencing at present is simply a test to distinguish the people of truth from the liars, the true believers from the hypocrites.(May Allah make us of Ahlul-Hack [PEOPLE OF TRUTH] Ameen!)
We must also be vigilant in our dealings with the disbelievers as they will never fail to do their best to try to corrupt us!
QURAN.3:149-150.”O you who believe! If you obey the unbelievers, they will drive you back on your heels, and you will turn back (from Faith) as losers.”
“Nay, Allah is your protector, and He is the best of helpers.”
May Allah guide, and protect us as the Ummah of Muhammad (saw) Ameen!
And may Allah reward you Shaykh Awlaki and protect you, and cause you never to back-track upon the path of truth, may He (Azza-wajal) increase you in guidance and knowledge and cause you to die in a state of Eeman.(Qul Ameen)
Hasan on September 4th, 2008 at 9:01 pm #
Asalamu Alaikum
To…..Bro Abdullah,
you missing the definition of fard ayn.
example, you’re five guys and saw a babay drawing. if one of you respond and able to save that babay, the rest are saved from the sin, if the guy who respond can’t save him, it’s still fard ayn upon the rest of you. If none of you respond to that babay you’re all sinnars and are held responisble for not saving that babay.
regardless of how many ulama or people that doesn’t participate it’s still individual obligation on you untill the enemy is repelled.
and i hope you’re not sugesting that we tell people in flistine, shishaan,afghanistan,somalia and iraq to do hijjra.
dre on September 5th, 2008 at 1:25 am #
Sh. Anwar has proven himself, once again, as religiously reckless. Fear Allah akhi and worry about the Yemenis and let the scholars of the West handle things. If you start a fire, we are the one’s who have to deal with it.
mj on September 5th, 2008 at 2:55 pm #
i tried all of those reciters and none of them are the one im looking for anymore suggestions?
akhi on September 5th, 2008 at 2:59 pm #
Dre???? subhanAllah. Dre????? u even named urself after a Kafir. even if its a screen name, at least pick a muslim one. it just goes to show ur ignorance. scholars of the west??? who are they, people are loosely using the name scholars like its nothing. dre??? im still shocked that u have the audacity to criticise an islamic person of knowledge using a kafir(non beleiver incase u didn’t know what it meant) name.